The absolute certainty of Radiometric dating is taken for granted. At least, it was until recently. Now that radiometric dating and carbon dating have both shown that they can be wildly inaccurate.
They rely on a chain of approximations and assumptions. These perfectly reasonably are part of the process. However, when one sees how many of these are used and the combined effect, the specific dates given must be treated as not being beyond any reasonable doubt. Indeed they are usually just about merely a balanced of probabilities. As we know, judicial proof must beyond a reasonable doubt to convict a criminal but only proven on a balance of probabilities in civil cases.
We have clearly shown on this site and in my Book One that Judaism’s narrative is beyond any reasonable doubt. Evolution’s evidence is hopelessly not even near a balance of probabilities. Thus evolution remains a pipedream. Real Judaism must remain a serious problem and challenge for the secular Jew.
Blind trust is placed in our dating methods but one must mention that radiometric and carbon dating have had some embarrassing moments recently. Purely secular discoveries have cast doubt on their accuracy. The faithful daily bow down to their god Charlie and smile on those who prance around his altar and enjoy some degree of debauchery, drugs, drink and finally lonely despair. What they do not care to know is that, however inaccurate, carbon and radiometric dating at least show that life is too young by billions of years to have mutated.
Some examples of Radiometric dating inaccuracies
Although famous and popular, King Tutankhamen personally long ago openly disputed carbon 14 dating. He produced three samples of wood from his tomb and gave them to archaeologists. He was not impressed when they were dated in a manner which showed he had lied about his birthday – by 600 years. 600 years in 3000 years is a big naughty – 20% out.
This margin of error extrapolated into pre-history would mean that we should still be keeping pet dinosaurs – well nearly. There were many shrieks of indignation at this discovery/fraud/lie from both the creationists and the secularists. Bibles and bones were flung.
More tests were done, this time, not on wood but on that noble monarch’s palm kernels, seeds and similar things found in his tomb. The secularists perfectly correctly pointed out that the wood samples could have been already ancient when Tut was but a mere lad. They could have be felled at 500 years old, dried for 100 years and then used to build the tomb by the poor Hebrew slaves singing, ‘Let my people go, man…’. This is not creationist but sane secularist obscuration. A leading dendrologist Peter I. Kuniholm reported as follows:
Suspiciously Mistaken
‘A well-preserved juniper post, painted blue and with modern door hinges, was recovered from a modern village house simply because it looked suspiciously old. The sample we were given did not fit anything in our Neolithic inventory, so we sent a piece of it to Heidelberg to see what radiocarbon analysis would reveal. The date is 2117 B.C. + 110 years, which means it is from some Early Bronze Age occupation near the lake at Kastoria.’
That piece of wood was being used in 1998! It was deemed to be 3000 years old.
Palm kernels found in the tomb however were far better subjects for testing. As young seeds, they must have dated from the moment of burial. Yet, surprisingly, these innocent witnesses confirmed the 600 year gaff. This curiously was apparently never published.
Radiometric Dating at High Altitudes
In the Pisco Formation, indeed high in the Atacama Desert, Chile, hundreds of perfect fossils of whales and other critters have been found. These are in layers originally radiometrically dated with our old friend potassium argon to stretch ‘from over 15 to 2 million years ago’. Some four hundred whales occupy layers which are presumed to have taken thousands and thousands of years to accumulate because of the dating of the volcanic ash within those layers.
Most of the deposits are about 600 meters thick and therefore the radiometric experts have evidence showing that each meter of the layers took about 20,000 years to develop. However, the site proves this to be impossible although it should span eons.
Yet everything within the layers contradicts this. The volcanic glass within the layers shows no sign of the usual blunting of its edges by thousands of years of water erosion and, famously, the whales are pristine and have suffered no decay or predation. To remain in such a perfect state they must have been covered in sediment within months not thousands of years.
A Suspiciously Well-Preserved Whale
Most of the fossilised skeletons lie, just as they hit the bottom, in their correct anatomical positions. Normally, a dead whale, including its bones, is utterly consumed by scavengers within four to five years on the sea bed. Here the skeletons are unmarked and mostly undisturbed. If they had beached and died on land – one would have still expected land predation and a scattering of peripheral bones.
They lie, in their undisturbed perfection, in layers of sediments which experts have avowed were twenty thousands of years apart. However, here matters become perplexing to say the least. The trouble is that many of the awkward, irresponsible whales lie partially vertically and diagonally, as it were, at angles across the chronologically different layers, and therefore across the thousands of years.
According to the radiometrics, the whales are cheerfully resting across strata with their fluke bones, spines and skulls stretched out neatly vertically across layers that are each dated thousands of years apart! The heads of fully intact fossils are in rock dated millennia younger or older than that in which their tails lie.
This is uncomfortable for both the paleontologists and presumably for the whales. Their condition shows that they must have died and been covered extremely quickly – within months. How did they end up like this in undisturbed strata? Thus the anti-evolution world uses these poor, long deceased creatures to clobber their enemies with the following argument – to which I have not found a solid reply.
A Whale of Many Ages
Even if lying horizontally, neatly along any particular layer and in line with the strata, your average 3-metre-high-at-the-shoulder whale crosses sixty thousand years of sedimentary rock. The bottom of its tummy is sixty thousand years older than the top of its back. But a 20 meter long whale, lying vertically, is enjoying a nap stretching over four hundred thousand years. Its nose is four hundred thousand years younger than its tail. Not a very likely scenario – especially if you do not believe in a world hereafter – for whales.
Also, these fossils are lying well above sea level and far inland. Unless they had mutated and developed wingless flight, there are very few theories of any nature that can explain this. Had they been whaling around as the Andes reared above the desert and carried inland they would have been boiled. Had they been fossilised beforehand, it is amazing that they are so entirely undisturbed. Cataclysmic tsunamis – Armageddon-type tidal waves or even Hollywood’s latest special effects would have broken the poor little things to pieces. I have not asked Noah if he noticed them.
The Diatomite Theory and Its Problems
Now one theory gaining primacy has been invented to avoid the embarrassment. It is based on the rock type. It is diatomite. This is a sort of parallel to chalk formed by trillions of the fossilised ‘skeletons’ of diatoms – a single cell alga which we call pond scum or plankton. We meet diatoms – as plucky witnesses – elsewhere in this journey through Darwinian faith and fantasy, but I shall not spoil that now.
When these diatoms die, they sink to the bottom. Their billions of skeletal remains form a thick soupy layer that is said to solidify into rock – diatom-ite. This rock forms at a regular pace, it is claimed, with the accumulation of a constant snowfall of the dead diatoms. This soup becomes, it is presumed, fossilised into rock – around any odd whales it may have covered. The Pisco whales have died under water thick with dead diatoms. But, this does not answer all the questions. Perhaps why they died – but not how long it took.
This school of thought is gaining currency because it fogs these painful issues. The full theory is that the area was a warm, shallow sea and a wealth of minerals washed periodically into it from the land, creating vast bloomings of plankton, and the krill that fed on it. In these conditions, great armadas of baleen whales converged on the poor little things.
It was The Revenge of The Planktons!
When feeding, they fill their mouths with sea water – not swallowing it – and with their huge tongues squeeze it out through their now-closed jaws, enclosed by plates of filtering baleen. The sushi ends up on the inside, the water on the outside. This amounts to billions of calories of pure protein. A perfect Atkins diet. But the billions of creatures upon which the whales were feeding are accused of wreaking a macabre revenge.
The krill and plankton soup also comprised living diatoms and in dying in such quantities, it is thought that they poisoned the waters as they covered the seabed and rotted into diatomite rock. This killed the whales instantly. Now you see that my tongue in cheek description of their sloppy feeding habits has a purpose.
To the Darwinians the dead whales were a scandal and something had to be thought up. But this politically-correct theory has presumed that the whales also read Edward Lear. How could they be trapped in this toxic water instantly, without some inescapable disruptive tectonic catastrophe which would smash and scatter their oh-so-neatly-arranged bones. This is because most sensible whales I know would instinctively swim away from any such noxious water, let alone fill their mouths with it. Ugh! After one bite, they would just sail out of the stuff.
So we must invent a new ‘fact’ – that they were all instantly magically trapped. Hypnosis? Yes, I know, ‘Perhaps … … .’ Come on, pull the other leg; mutants think whales had them.
In summary, this whale of a tail needs a series of convenient events, each entirely based on supposition:
The Fugu Fish Trap For The Whales
- minerals happen to be washed into a sea;
- these happen to be yummy to diatoms;
- the sea happens to be shallow and a perfect environment for diatoms;
- the sun happens to be shining;
- the diatoms happen to bloom in extraordinary numbers;
- krill happen to multiply in vast numbers as they breakfast on the diatoms;
- this happens to be noticed by at least four hundred whales;
- they catch the next steamer to the sea;
- the sea happens to be thick with dead diatoms;
- miraculously, the diatoms, who do not multiply in poor conditions, bloom;
- miraculously, they keep blooming and poisoning their own environment;
- the sea is fatally poisonous;
- the whales put on their swim suits anyway;
- they somehow feed in this porridge of poison;
- they are poisoned and die instantly;
- those that do not do so, happen to be trapped in the sea, and die instantly.
You know this is all actually perfectly good science for evolutionists. It matches the very best proofs they have produced. But surely, even for the sushi de la sushi would you go into a Japanese restaurant filled with deadly fumes? OK. If it were kosher and really cheap …
And remember that radiometric dating of the ash deposits. Mmmm?
I Can’t Believe The Ica Valley Results!
The chart dealing with the Pisco Formation’s Ica Valley seems to confirm all the conundrums. And, extremely sadly, Pisco was examined by honest and careful men who having found masses of ‘tuffs’ (igneous rocks that can be dated) used radiometric dating to date innumerable ‘marker’ layers of rock. What is astonishing is that no one has mentioned this enormous and very stinky elephant in the room – that single whales transverse the millennial layers.
‘In the Ica Valley section a number of laterally extensive marker beds were identified, with distinctive geological and/or paleonto-logical characteristics … These beds were walked out, GPS positions and altitudes taken at successive intervals, and strikes and dips of the sediments determined. We labelled each marker bed with an M (Ica alley) or LM (Aguada de Lomas) followed by a number. GPS locations are also labelled with letters and numbers.’
In other words, they limply end with – ‘We were very exacting and accurate, honest, but it jus’ don’t make no sense’. Except for the chortling creationists, there is a deathly silence. Go, search now. Furthermore the academics publishing on Pisco carefully avoid branding themselves except by generally using the ‘death by diatoms’ theory, which really does not hold water, in my opinion. It merely prevents anyone having openly to admit he just does not know.
More Trouble For The Experts – Whales on Cliffs:
But, more trouble was in store for the experts. Another bunch of suicidal, gluttonous whales have been found hanging on to cliffs in Chile’s Atacama Desert north of Caldera. It is absolutely astounding how reports on these also carefully allow for instant poisoning and evolution. Here there were no diatoms so I presume we must blame Miocene Japanese whalers or sushi.
So, again, they simply cannot use the radiometric dating and settle the matter even though the sites are knee deep in igneous material. The tuffs are not tough enough.
And there is another sting in the fluke for the mutationists. Most embarrassingly, there is absolutely not one example of any sign of mutation despite this being an almost museum-type exhibition of prehistoric whales, perfectly-preserved, stretching across 13 million years according to the experts. They are all whales. Old whales, extinct whales, very dead whales – but no half whales, sort of whales or trying to be whales.
And this is part of the period during which we are told that lots of critters were doing everything they could to mutate into whales. The site has extinct creatures and extant creatures representing nearly 15 million years of whale family life. They should have been mutating like mad. But no extinct proto-whales. Did these whales not know about Darwin?
The Rules That Never Make Sense: Radiometric Dating’s Nightmare
Further, there is a weird collection of many other species here and in adjoining structures. There is a dolphin with walrus-like tusks, a vast bird larger than the condor, of all things apparently a marine giant sloth and almost everything you could hope for – except they all also break the rules.
So, either the radiometric dates are wrong or the whales are wrong. The volcanic ash and tuffs in the layers around each of the whales prove they ‘must have’ taken thousands of years to accumulate. The whales crossing these layers must have taken only a few months to be buried. Their perfect fossils prove this. Some even have fossilised baleen still in situ in their jaws. This is dislodged and decays in modern stranded whales in days. Even were they universally drowned by a poisonous sea in which no scavenger could survive, their baleen must have melted away.
Darwinian Denial of The Obvious
The Darwinian faith-heads shake their heads and say, ‘Dunno. But there must be a reason that fits Darwin.’
Their enemies cry, ‘Pure, beautiful faith. Them evolutionists are our brothers in faith.’
Thus, to date, the Pisco and Chilean whales have been adopted as the favourite pets of the creationist camp. There seems silence on the other side. And there is a dearth of information about any dating evidence. The portcullis is down.
Yes, we must question the accuracy of radio-metrics. But, ironically, it provides too little time for the very evolutionists supporting it. Further, there is doubt whether re-testing is rigorous if the initial dating fulfilled the presumptions of the experts.
Meet Mr and Mrs Mungo
One example is Mungo Lady, a young Australian woman – with masses of attitude – dug up 90 miles from Victoria, New South Wales in 1969. She had been fiercely claiming her old age pension based on being 24,000 years old. Her husband, Mungo Man claimed his age to be about 30,000 years old when he was discovered in 1974 and was soon also banging on the table demanding his rights.
As well as not wishing to shelve out millions of Australian dollars in back paid pensions, a nasty rumour suddenly threatened the oldest old dears of the outback. It was claimed they were not that old. They could not be because if they were, these two poor relics would have raised an embarrassing question. This threatened a central Aussie middle class tradition. Their pensions were really not the problem – it was their alleged age. It raised a terribly politically-incorrect suggestion. Therefore to avoid this, unusually, the experts checked again … and again … and again.
But the results were unpublishable. It was found, in 1999, that, even more embarrassingly, they were ‘62,000 years’ old. This was unthinkable and a battle erupted about the implications of this. After yet more tests, in 2003, it was stated that their ages were merely ‘40,000 years’ old. But this was still not young enough. I shall explain in a moment but please note first, the wide degree of variation in dating and secondly, that the re-examinations were spurred on not by science but by the ultimate in political-rectitude.
Genociding Aborigines and Aboriginal History
The Indigenous Aboriginal people of Australian had been slaughtered as if they were wild beasts by the highly-civilised Caucasians who stole their continent, just like the ‘Americans’ butchered and exterminated the true Aboriginal Indian Americans and walk on their land to this day. The world of Australian white academia and middle class ‘nice’ people seized this as a tool of self-flagellation and a cause celebre just like their American clones. They fiercely championed the few Aboriginals who had survived their Holocaust. Superhuman and immediate steps to assist Aboriginals were made by successive governments – obviously only immediately before elections.
The Mungo’s great age should have been a boon to this as they established that they, apparently the oldest Indigenous Aboriginals, had been there a very long time. But there was a tiny problem and a big secret. The world exploded. Politically-incorrect disaster stuck.
Mungo was not an ‘aboriginal’ type but a very distinctively different race of an even older homo sapiens of a different build entirely. Mungo and his lot had been in Australia before – before – the ‘Indigenous Aboriginal Originals’. The Originals were no longer originals.
It was discovered that the Mungo DNA was of an extinct line of a fine-boned – gracile – Man, pre-dating the ancestors of those termed the Original Indigenous Aboriginal peoples. The latter have a much heavier-boned build and the profoundly different skull of ‘Robust’ Man.
The Mungo Conundrum: Playing The Wrong Didgeridoo
But Mungo was a trouble maker because he raised other issues. If Mungo descended from outside Australia – from the ‘African Adam’ – with his more gracile physique – his DNA should have related to the latter’s. It didn’t either. So Mungo predated the Aboriginals and was not merely an African taking a short vacation by cruising the Antipodes.
The vegan lefties had been playing the wrong didgeridoo. The right wing, racialist, beer-swigging rowdies roared with laughter. They crowed that the Aboriginals themselves had usurped the land and murdered all the Mungo-ians. The white man’s atrocious barbarity ‘was not so bad’ because the ‘Robust Man’ Aboriginals’ ancestors had themselves rowed in, wiped out the frail Mungo-ians and stolen the land from them. This put the thylacine amongst the wallabies.
That the right wing could concoct such an idea is a lesson in Darwinism itself – but they are after all descended from transported criminals. Yet, apparently a very similar dispute is boiling in the USA with the claimed discovery of human remains that pre-date Native American Indians. So the politically-correct camp have quietly abandoned the Mungos.
Far worse, they were refused their pension back-pay because apparently they had lost their National Insurance numbers.
The central point is that the Mungo couple could no longer be dated to fit in with our expectations. When the dates began to be questioned, they had to fit in with another political agenda – and then yet another. Finally, they were abandoned because they were plain embarrassing.
They highlight the irresistible temptation to date fossils subjectively.
Elsewhere we shall meet numerous similar examples of professional amnesia as we call our witnesses. From the microscopic to the mighty whale, most of their testimony is hilarious and utterly damning.
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